Sunday, August 17, 2008

A REPLY TO KASHMIRI PANDITS




This is specially for pandits.You Pandits never miss an opportunity to pour venom against Kashmiri Muslims.There is no need today to go and open the pages of History which is all re written by Hindu fanatics.I am a Muslim and let me tell you that it hardly matters for a Muslim Who he was before accepting Islamic Monotheisim.Your slander against Mir Syed Ali Hamodony,Sikander Buot shikan is base less.Islam has never been spreaded by sword or atrocities.Our Prophet(A.S) has not teached us that and no one can deny this fact that He(A.S)while taking Makkah back from the Idol worshippers he gave general amnesty to those who had persecuted killed Muslims and even He(A.S) was not spared. He forgave those non Muslims who killed His Daughter while she was leaving for Medina on a camel and was pregnant. They terrified her camel so much that she fell and died of internal bleeding. He (A.S) forgave those who killed His uncle Hamza (R.A) whose corpse was opened and his liver chewed and blood drinked. Nose and ears chopped off to make necklaces. The whole Makkah accepted this religion when they themselves saw the generosity and kindness of the Prophet(A.S) and Islam.We are a people of peace and followers of such a religion. It is advisable that you should first try to understand Islam yourself then only talk or comment. Even when Quran clearly Says In Surat Al Maida Ayat N0 45

أنَّ النَّفسَ بالنَّفسِ والعينَ بالعينِ والأنفَ بالأنفِ والأُذُنَ بالأُذُنِ والسِّنَّ بالسِّنِّ والجروحَ قصاصٌ فمن تَصدَّقَ به فهو كفَّارةٌ له ومن لم يحْكُم بما أنزَلَ الله فأولئك هم الظَّالمون
"

And We ordained therein for them" Life for Life, Eye for eye, Nose for nose, Ear for ear, Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, It shall be for him an explanation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, Such are the Zalimun (wrong doers, Polytheists))


He(A.S) forgave them. He(A.S)could have easily ordered to kill all men women children or order to accept Islam. Islam doesn't accept forced conversion as the person is not accepting it by heart and will not be a Muslim and will be harm to believers. A Muslim is that person who accepts Islamic Monotheism accepts Mohammad (A.S) as a messenger of Allah. Who without any let or hindrance implements the Law of Islam on himself. If he does not He is a Hypocrite and Hypocrites cannot deceive Allah but only themselves.
Now about Kashmiri Muslims .May be you may have forgotten but let me remind you the aftermath of Oct 26 1947.Who saved Pandits in Kashmir from the Adventure of Tribals who reached up to Shalateng and Rambagh.If we would have hated you and wanted you guys to be wiped off then we would have joined the tribals.We were Kashmiri Muslims and fighted back our own Muslims who were gone astray at that time and wanted to kill Pandits.While in Jammu in mere 3 days Indian army jana sang and the Sikhs with the help of patiala forces matyred 300.000 Muslim mem women and children.We could have easily responded.But its the greatness of our religion and our Kashmiri roots which always lie in between.In 1990 it were you who were lured by India and puppet governor Jagmohan to leave valley so that he'll clean it from Muslims as he cleaned the muslim houses near Turkman gate in Delhi when he was Lt.Governor there.What was wrong when a spy of India was killed whether it was a pandit or Muslim.Spy has to be neutralized and it is done every where. Obviously You guys were more in such agencies so it had to happen. Muslim spy's also were killed without any discrimination .Take the case of Tehsin Billa he was blown off by Al umar.What was wrong when JKLF killed Neel kanth Ganjoo who being a Judge ordered Maqbool bhat to be Hanged in a fake case. Sikh spy's also were targeted but they never left the valley why? because they had no dubious intentions and they very well know the real face of Indian Democracy. Who Killed Sikhs in 1984.Also to add to your knowledge there is a colony of sikh widows in Delhi who were burnt alive in 1984.In chatisingh pora,Mehjoor Nagar who killed Sikhs to defame us but Sikhs know who the culprit was and remained with us.Also I wanted to add here despite Sikhs of not being kashmiris no one asks them to leave.It were the Hindus who since Kashmir was Sold were oppressing Kashmiri Muslims. We are the people who don't oppress and don't allow others to oppress us that's why you see Muslims struggling nowadays in many parts of the world.We have clear guidelines from God. Live with peace and Harmony but if someone Hurts you give him a befitting response.
You Batas every now and then tell people that you left property in Kashmir.Isn't it a fact that puppet Govt of J&K has made a law that all migrant property first will be assessed by the govt.and then only sold.You people sold it by your consent and the Govt.is witness to it so why you people lie. You say Your Temples were burnt. Show me one. Every temple has been occupied by The Occupational Forces of India. I once entered a temple in Channapora locality after taking a bath in the nearby river,The temple which was abandoned by forces , inside they had made it just as a cattle shed. Go and see that temple on the bank of Kita Kol on bypass at chanapora.We never occupied your houses by force. Whereas in Jammu Mosques were made shelter for cattle. Houses of Muslims were given to Hindu migrants from Sialkot and mirpur.We are not cheap as your people are. We are proud Muslims of kashmiri ethnicity.Even today if you guys will come we'll be happy to live together with you but without any more betrayals and mischief.Also don't cry that your community was targeted. DGP of police(J&K) told in a press conference, Who himself is a Pandit,Said 250 KP's and 100.000 Muslims were killed since the insurgency against Indian illegal occupation started in 1989.Believe me I had so many Pandit friends who also left valley. . You people should realize your betrayal and denounce Indian atrocities on Kashmiri Muslims. We'll take you back on our shoulders as we are one blood. In spite of slanders against Kashmiris we Love you.

49 comments:

Tanvir Sadiq said...
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Ray Lightning said...

An important thing in a conflict is not to generalize the behavior of a few persons to a whole community.

It is these mindless generalizations which will force people to commit atrocities.

Just because a few Kashmiri pandits said something bad about Muslims, you shouldn't use your diatribe against the community. Similarly, don't get tempted to look at your own community in all good looks. There will be a couple of scoundrels everywhere.

The exodus of Kashmiri pandits is very unfortunate and it has a million reasons, identifying one Jag Mohan as a culprit is not logical.

And equally true about other incidants such as Kashmiri youth getting murdered or Hindu temples getting burned.

Premature generalization is a logical fallacy. It becomes very dangerous when it is used in a frayed-nerve situation of conflict.

What matters the most is keeping the cool and understanding that we are all of the same humanity. Reason shall win.

Gaurav said...

umm....Islam was not spread by sword? Now you are re-writing history my friend by claiming that. let bygones be bygones. Islaam has done many many wrongs and so has been done by other religions also. So that does not prove anybody right or wrong.

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Islam Dosent need sword to be spreaded.Nor Muslims need forced converted/reverted Muslims.Unfortunately People don't even know what actually being a Muslim is and who is indeed a Muslim.

Doctors of Kashmir said...

Dear Dr Waleed,
Plz accept our congratulations for starting a blog about the happenings in Kasmir. I would just request u toplz remove the word Hapless from ur profile coz God is with us and Inshaalah We shall win.We have started a blog from Kashmir itself Link is www.kashmir-burning.blogspot.com. plz visit the blog and post ur comments
Dr Jehangir

Unknown said...

Dear Brother
Assalamualaikum
Dont spell "Mecca",in the article replace it by
MAkkah : "Mecca" in USA means a brothel, it is the result of the western media who is reposnsible for the character assasination of the islamic terms.A lot of literature has been printed for eradicating this menace.

Wasalaam

Unknown said...

How did pundits all along the valley knew that they had to leave on a single date,all around there was curfew, and no communication at all, it was supported by jagmohan intelligence, so no illusion in the indian murderer's gun whom to kill because of same skin and adornments of a kashmiri pundit or muslim,,when pundits left who was left in the valley only muslims,got IT!!!

Unknown said...

DEAR BROTHER ASSALAMUALAIKUM
Why do you think like that:
""""""Waleed
Riyadh, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
A hapless Kashmiri who has bben deprived of the right of self determination promised by the U.N.O and The first Indian Prime minister """""

U.N.O an organisation which was found after WW-II is just an eyewash for the people round the globe,USA is using it as a "Londi" for itself, since 90% population of the USA is unbelievers, who if die in the same condition of polytheism, that HAzrat ISaa Alaihisalaam was in their terms GOD,then they will be thrown in the hell fire forever on the day of resurrection.

Moreover their hegemony round the globe for their materialistic advancement is just a "fitna" for them "azmaissh". Some even then HAVE averted to Islam and are doing considerable services to ISlam in USA & South Africa as well as IN Europe.

When the first PM of India died he had made a "vasiat" that his ashes be dropped on the Indian soil from airplane. ALL THOSE AREAS ON WHICH THIS ASH WAS THROWN, THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS DRAUGHT.

So, MY BROTHER ultimately those people who are NOT even aware that what will happen to their immortal future, "the totality of existence" : " life & life hereafter" how can they promise anything to the believers who have every support of ALL POWERFULL ALLAH IN EVERY NOOK AND CORNER OF LIFE, from the heart of hearts to the each and every aspect of the visible life activites.

SO WHO FULFILLS PROMISES? COMPLETELY WITHOUT ANY DOUBT. IT IS " INAKA-LA-TUKH-LIFUL-MIAAD"
"ALLAH NEVER BETRAYS HIS PROMISES"

SO THOSE WHO PRACTICALLY FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM, ALLAH IS WITH THEM,WHATEVER THEY WISH HE BESTOWS THEM.SO LET US BEG ALLAH FOR ALL OUR NEEDS AND HE WILL BESTOW US WITHOUT ANY DELAY INSHA ALLAH.AMEEN SUMA AMEEN

HAZRAT MIR SYED ALI HAMDANI (REHMATULAHI ALEH)WHO WAS GIFTED BY ALLAH WITH "KARAMAT" CAME TO KASHMIR FOR TEACHING ISLAM, EVERYBODY WAS HINDU AT THAT TIME IN KASHMIR, SO IT WAS BECAUSE OF HIS ADOPTED BEHAVIUOR OF RASOOL-LALLAH SALLAHU-ALAIHI-WASALLAM,PRAYERS "DUA" THAT PEOPLE WERE BESTOWED BY ALLAH WITH IMAAN: THAT THE VALLEY OF MANDIRS BECAME VALLEY OF MASJIDS.

MOREOVER SOME DID NOT AVERT LIKE IN THE TIMES OF RASOOL-LALLAH SALLAHU- LAIHIWASALLAM, LET US BEG ALLAH ALMIGHTY MAY BESTOW ALL OUR UN-BELIEVER KASHMIRI BRETHREN AND ALL UNBELIEVERS WITH IMAAN. AMEEN SUMA AMEEN

WASALAAM

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Brothers Jehangir.Thanks for your kind words.I had gone through your blog and saw the list of our people affected by the unprovoked firing of occupational forces. I also understood the current position of life saving drugs there. Yesterday Russia recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent states.America and west recognized Kosovo. I wonder what our brother Pakistan is doing.Why it is not even raising its voice against the genocide of Kashmiris by Indian occupational army. At least it can call for an emergency session to denounce Indian agression.Is our blood so cheap that even our own people don't take notice of our sufferings..

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Omar
Thanks for correcting me"I have changed the spelling MAKKAH.I wanted to tell u that in Bible God has named Makkah as Becca.
JAZAK ALLAH KHAIR
Waleed

Anonymous said...

sir
tell me wht u feel abot kashmiri hindus... ur freedom fighters killed kashmri pandits....they never ever killed a single muslim..
ur freedom fighters made us to move out of valley..we never made a muslim to move out of his place..
ur freedom fighters abducted scholl going girls.. we never did that...

so for wht are u saying that we people spet venom against u..
wht have u done godd for us...
nothing a big zero...

i know ur answer u ll say it was planning of jagmohan ... but tell me wht about the threats..sir its very easy to comment...
but atlest give me a single reason so that we would love u people...

wht ever is happening is kashmir is bad... where ever innocents are killed its bad.. but tell me where was ur this concious when we were killed...
u people want aazadi ..
so fight for it... i ll be the most happiest person ...at leat we will get rid of abig problem..


do reply me ..if u have answers

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Pamposh
India had flocked its spy agencies mostly with the People of your community hence they had to eliminated. This is done everywhere. Muslims who were spy's were also Killed without any mercy, Sikh spy's also met the same fate. We had saved you people in 1947 from the tribals and non regular Muslim forces in our homes only for your betrayal in 1990.when Muslims were Killed by Patiala forces, Hindus ,In India, Jammu. We gave you our full protection until Occupational army arrived on 27th of October. Isn't this too much for you to respect kashmiri Muslims and Love them. Even you guys betrayed us we don't consider you enemies and know that Indian Govt. used you people to defame our freedom struggle. It tried to do it with Sikhs from time to time but Sikhs know the real face of India from their adventure of Punjab and 1984. If you cannot stand by us no need but don't pour venom against us by telling fabricated lies. I have visited a dozen of your web sites and found lies which are same as Bollywood stories,Check yourself at the end of my blog under Propaganda against Kashmiri Muslim.No one Killed Hindus in Kashmir for fun as Your buddy Indian Occupational forces are doing with Muslims. Even though there cannot be ruled out 100% possibility of some individual aggression on some person of your community .But forcing you people out by Muslims is a fabricated Lie. How you will explain to me in Jan 1990 when no living soul was allowed to come out on roads as there was a strict curfew by the Butcher of kashmiri's Jagmohan,You people roamed freely took your belongings and left. Who provided you transport facilities in curfew. Why you people lie? You guys hatched a plan with the Puppet governor that He'll decimate Kashmiri Muslims and then You'll return along with the other Hindus of India to change the demography of Kashmir for ever. Your Kuldeep Khoda who is a Pandit D.G.P J&K told on record that 250-300 Kashmiri Hindus and 100.000 Muslims were Killed from 1989. Regarding Hindus he is telling a lie I think not more than a 100 lost their lives. But Muslims were killed without any proper records. We have thousands of unknown graves here who were not considered by Khoda.
You talk about schoolgirls being abducted, This is again a propaganda ,the reality is that Your buddy Occupational army has used Rape and abduction as a weapon in Kashmir and Punjab. Operation "SHUDDI KARAN " what was that. Rape of the women in Kunan Poshpora , Channaapora, Attempts to rape and molest from Hindu army.All this is a recorded fact. We are not cheap as people of your community are. We always considered you people our brothers and sisters.Once I was flying from Delhi to Riyadh ,I siiting on my chair found a person besides to me.when the plane took off I started the oligatory prayer for travel.He on hearing me greeted me in Kashmiri.He was a doctor kashmiri Hindu, We talked as if we were friends from eternity.We were so happy to have each other's company. We kashmiri Muslims love you guys and want you people to return with honour and dignity but you should realise your mistake of switching side with India to defame the struggle.You should denounce the atrocities of India on us. If you guys want to live with India who is stopping you.Lets ask for referendum.Lets keep three options there .Let whole J&K vote.If People choose India let J&K be with India,If Pakistan Let it be so,If Independent Which I also want Let it be an independent. Our Prime Minister Ram Chandra kak also wanted to be Independent. Nehru and Mount Batten forced Hari Singh to remove Ram kak to ensure the farce of accession.
Where we were when you people were allegedly killed? Were were you when you people were spying to silence the voice of dissent in Kashmir. Where were you when Neel Kanth Ganju awarded death sentence to "Maqbool Bhat" in a fake case. where were you when Ganderbali was putting hot iron on peoples thighs if they dared to listen to AJK radio or talk about Kashmirs Independence. where were you when Sheikh Abdullah was jailed for fictitious "Kashmir conspiracy case" . Where were you when Maqbool Bhat was hanged in Tihar Jail and even after silencing his voice India didn't return his mortal remains to Kashmiris,We Kashmiris up to today don’t know where he is buried. Then You remained mute spectators.

WALEED.

Anonymous said...

sir,
frm ur comments ,it seems that u are in favour of killing of a spy...but wht a coincidence ..spy in his own country... and who gave u right to kill... in penal laws we have no such option to kill a spy..anyways if these killing were right then how will u defend that the killing of kashmiri muslims who support this terrsm ..raise pakistani flags ..give shelter to milltants.. who leave no option to stand against india as wrong ...
if ur people died during ths war of independce why are blaming us for all ths... it is the path that u choose...

u pple saved our life during tribal attack ..if u wnt me to thank for that ...thank u .... is ths ok ...but forget that we will love u and respect u ..because ur freedom struggle made us to suffer..

u people gave us full protection till army arrived ..then tell me who made the annoucements all over kashmir telling them to leave and even some whre said that leave and leave ur ladies behind for us ... sir wht was that?

every time when ever i read comments of somee K M they say that this all happened because of jagmohan ...tell me will u leave ur kashmir if some geelani will order u ...no u won't leave ..unless and untill u feel insecure ... i know many kashmiri muslims who left kashmir not because of jagmohans policies just becuase ur milltants will kill them whenever they see them..
and why a person would leave his native place whre he was having property of lakhs and live in tents..or in one room quaters... ur argument is too weak and think over ur arg..


we are not fabricating any lies against u . but i m telling wht we faced.. one of our relatives in 1990's while leaving valley they pretended to be as muslims so that their girls would reach safe..
wht will u say about this..

u said tht kuldeep khoda said that so and so pop.of muslims and hindus died during past 18 yrs ... tell me u wnt aazadi..ur milltants wnt that ..u are fighting for that..so its obvious that u people will be killed but wht will justify killing of k ps and sufferings..
we don't want aazadi as we are living in an independent nation..

i heard this from my mom, sisters etc.. that the school girls were abducted..why will they lie to me...my mom is not apolitican

may b wht u said about indian army that they rape or whatever is right as i m not very sure about that...i ll be the first one stand whtever is against humanity... but tell me are ur milltnts innocent children... i heard in an exclusive interview of bitta karate... that yes milltants rape kashmiri women... why don't u people utter a word against ur milltants..
if u people really want that we should return back then why ur younger generation talks so rudely with us..trust me they behave as if we move u people out...
and why evertime whn the govt plans for return of kasmiri pandits... there is a drama in valley.. either wandhama or kiling of hindus i n valley ..bomb blasts.. etc..
sir kashmir was indepent untill pakistan army attacked... then maharaja harisingh asked india for help... this was it ...
wht ever cases u cited below...
i think this occured because of defect of judiciary
if they were right

wht will u say about when bitta karate was released... wht will u say when afzal guru ws not given death sent..lets not talk about indv cases ..but as a whole

Anonymous said...

my god ...no reply..seems u have no answers...and wht about my yesterdays comment...it seems u don't dare to publish the truth.... common answer me...

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Pamposh

Peace be with you

It is not because I don’t have answers, these days the Month of Ramadan is going on
And we muslims are fasting & busy in asking forgiveness from our God of our sins.

You should not jump from one topic to another.Spy's of India ,If you consider India your country there is no harm in it.But you cannot thrust your opinion on others who see India as a occupational country. Firstly you should understand fully without any bigotry that Kashmir is a disputed territory as there are several UN resolutions on Kashmir left un implemented. Even the first PM of India promised us Plebiscite .When Kashmir is a disputed territory how come one can consider the authority of India on our part of Kashmir and the authority of Pakistan on the Pakistan held Kasmir to be final. If anybody lives with such idea then He/She is living in utopia. Since 1947 onwards India with the help of its spying agencies tried to silence the voice of dissent in Kashmir. People were subjected to severe form of torture, subjugation by the agencies of India. What India did with Syed Salahuddin in 1989 elections , Also how India humiliated Yasin Malik, javed Mir,Hamid Sheikh in police stations. People who had once believed in the democracy and secularism of India lost their faith in it .People remembered how India even subjugated Sheikh Abdullah whose endorsed the farce accession, he was arrested by India when He raised his voice. He was arrested for Infamous 'KASHMIR CONSPIRACY CASE' when a person of such caliber was humiliated what is left there. So my dear anybody working for Indian spy agency is a
traitor of Kashmir and has to be neutralized .Kashmiris don't accept India's authority on Kashmir so obviously don't accept the constitution of India or It's penal code.
Now again about your community why they left. I think I had already replied to your allegations in my previously reply. And I'll try to write it again
As your community had its people mostly in Spy agencies of India who were always inflicting harm on Kashmiri Muslims who did not accepted India as their country. There was a drive to eliminate these spy's and other traitors who were hatching conspiracies against Kashmiris. So they were targeted without any distinction whether it was a Hindu, Muslim or Sikh. This was a right move and it proved productive. When India realized that its grip loosed and Freedom was near for Kashmiris, It Posted Jagmohan on his second term as the Puppet governor. Jagmohan who is a old worker of BJP and RSS and was a Minister in Vajpayee govt.

I'll continue Inshallah

Anonymous said...

hw can peace be with me.... my country is burning because of ur miiltants... hope u heard about yesterdays blasts..

anyways u said that u don't accept indian const.. or penal laws... i know that state of j&k is having diff cont as well as penal code ... ie ranbir penal code(RPC)
and acc. to that also u can't kill a spy... u can;t apply barbaric laws here....

u said tat indian pm promised for plebsite ..but there was one condition that each and every foreign milltant should be out... and i think at ths point of time we are having a lot of so called freedom strugglers in kashmir ...

so frst make them out and then ask for plebsite..

next u said that people wre subjected to severe torture before 1989 ...trust me u are the first person who said like this ..
i don't think that there was any kilnd of torure on u people in kashmir... even u people made us to live in opression...
and u sais that so and so was charged with blah blah case ... i told u don't talk about ind . cases...
if i start discussing about indv. cases i ll discuss those cases where people were killed even after not being spys... ok there were hardly 2 or 3 hindu spys ... u can't even justify there death but still tell me wht will u say about other death... were womens spy...children too.. god we kashmiri hindu children are so intlligent.. thank u god...


u didn't answer my question ... IF GEELANI WILL ASK U TO MOVE OUT OF KASHMIR AND TELL U TO LIVE IN JAMMU OR ANY WHERE WILL U?

U STILL DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION WHY MY PARENTS WILL LIE TO ME THAT KASHMIRI HINDU WOMENS WERE TOTURED ?THEY ARE NOT POLITICIANS..

TELL ME .. SERIOUSLY U CAN'T JUSTIFY UR WAR OF INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE OF THAT U MADE HUMANITY TO SUFFER

EVEN I CAN SAY THAT U PEOPLE ARE THE WORST SUFFERERS OF ALL THS...AND U REAP WHT U SOW..

MAY GOD GIVE U SADBHUDHI

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Pam posh
After going through your comments I understood that you don’t have any knowledge of Kashmir except what you have acquired from your mothers lap. I don’t think it is worth to go on any further discussion with you. If you don’t know about Sheikh Abdullah's arrest and humiliation then you know nothing about Kashmir. If you don’t know about Shabbir Shah who was imprisoned by India since he was 13 yrs old, who m amnesty international calls 'prisoner of conscience' . Oppression before 1989 seems new to you.Tell me for what purpose was public safety act introduced in Kashmir,, anyone detained under this act can be put under detention without trial.You talk of this democracy. About R.P.C , We kashmiris don’t accept R.P.C of of Dogra Hindus or IPC of tyrant India.We are a oppressed nation where India has been ruling by it's military might and nothing else. About following our leaders is considered, We Kashmiris have always followed the call of our leaders. Example is when we Kashmiris fought with tribals who were our coreligionists and saved you when Sheikh Abdullah asked us to do so. We marched towards our Muzzaffarabad knowing that India will fire as it is a pseudo democratic country. Tomorrow if our leaders will ask something else including leaving Kashmir we'll not let them down. We are fighting for a cause for freedom from India. We don’t have anything to do with religion of Idol worshippers; If we would have been religious fanatics then Sikhs would have not supported our cause. It was India who did massacres of Hindus and Sikhs to give the freedom struggle a communal name. Sikhs who know the real face of India didn't left but your community who from centuries were subjugating Muslims lost their upper hand so you people hatched a conspiracy with Jagmohan to decimate Muslims and then to return.

You seem to be a child who have been fed with anti Kashmiri Muslim hatred ness and fabricated lies about Kashmir. I am happy that we being oppressed by the Hindus have not fed ou children with the same type of stuff against Hindus. About your Mother and Sister's allegations about the abduction of Hindu girls ,This is completely a blatant lie ,We kashmiri's are not of a cheap moral and character, your mother is not a polititian but can be influenced by the propaganda and rumours which were used by India to take your community out of Kashmir. My sincere advice to you is to thoroughly read about Kashmir through an independent source and also ask any Kashmiri Hindu who is still living in Kashmir,He will tell you how Kashmiri Muslims are. Also your allegation that some one pretended to be Muslim in order to save his daughters is again a fantasy. Please don’t believe in bollywood type stories.We never did any harm to you.
About Blasts what we Kashmiris have to do with it. It is the reaction of Indian Muslims towards India. Although at least you can now feel the pain when blood of innocent people is spilled. Kashmiri's are butchered everyday you guys were laughing ,Now Gods calamity has falled on you and despite of hatred ness on Indians and Kashmiri Hindus towards us ,Our Leadre Syed Geelani and Malik has condemmed the blasts. You people never condemn state terrorism in Kashmir
Regarding plebiscite India did not fulfilled its promise upto 1989 then only armed struggle against Indian occupation started.Upto 1989 evey voice like Maqqboool bhat etc was silenced by your community with the Help of India. Unfortunately again you know nothing about Kashmir and it's worthless to discuss.

I had also asked you questions but, I couldn't find any answers. Also I may tell you that as I have published your comments in my blog, no one from your community publishes ours as they are afraid that their farce of Muslim propaganda will be exposed. If you don’t believe me write to any K.hindus site as a Muslim and favour the cause of Muslims they'll not entertain your comments. We Kashmiri Muslims have nothing to hide. Its good to discuss and to expose the lies of your dubious politicians.


WALLAH YASIMUK MINNAN NAS

Waleed

Asur Samrat Basmasur said...

Dear brother Waleed
No need to answer the useless arguements of these people as they will never accept their betrayal. You have correctly mentioned about the oppression of Kashmiri Muslims who were against the illegal occupation of our country by India. I want to add here that Maqbool Bhat was hanged for taking revenge against killing of a diplomat in London.His name was Maathey.He was tried for the killing of an Inspector of police,But his associate Aurenzeb had fired on Him.Bhat was innocent.

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Basamasur

A/A
Thanks for updating our knowledge and for your support for truth.Indeed now there are not much takers of their fabricated lies anymore.TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS

Waleed

Unknown said...

Dear Waleed,

I want to clear to PAmposh that,
This is time for him to thank God,
that he is atleast alive today to give posts on this blogger.

If his elders are really true
do they know that Kashmiri muslims were not so brutal (as alleged by him), to Kashmiri hindus (minority) like the hindus of Gujarat who roasted muslims(minority) alive in Ahmedabad.

Even today if we wish we can invite them (PAndits) back, who were displaced by Indian Politicians, by showing them "greener pastures".

II) CAn they brutal Hindus; : who tend to be Vegetarians and cant digest these vegetables without the wine (mother of all evil) : bring back to life those muslims whom they killed??

DOES HE OR HIS ELDERS HAVE ANSWER FOR THIS???WAS ANY TEMPLE RAZED TO GROUND IN J&K LIKE BABRI MASJID BY THESE DRUNKEN GOONS AND CHURCHES IN ORISSA TODAY ARE BEING RAZED TO GROUND BY THEM!! DO THEY HAVE ANSWER?

So it is the time for them to thank God for their well being THAT they did not met the climax like Ahmedabad muslims or any riot ridden state of India, like Orissa today burning Christians minorities alive and their property !!!

I BEG ALLAH TO BESTOW ALL NON- MUSLIM BRETHREN WITH IMAAN AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS LIFE IN THE WORLD AMEEN SUMA AMEEN..

Unknown said...

Dear Waleed,

I want to clear to PAmposh that,
This is time for him to thank God,
that he is atleast alive today to give posts on this blogger.

If his elders are really true
do they know that Kashmiri muslims were not so brutal (as alleged by him), to Kashmiri hindus (minority) like the hindus of Gujarat who roasted muslims(minority) alive in Ahmedabad.

Even today if we wish we can invite them (PAndits) back, who were displaced by Indian Politicians, by showing them "greener pastures".

II) CAn they brutal Hindus; : who tend to be Vegetarians and cant digest these vegetables without the wine (mother of all evil) : bring back to life those muslims whom they killed??

DOES HE OR HIS ELDERS HAVE ANSWER FOR THIS???WAS ANY TEMPLE RAZED TO GROUND IN J&K LIKE BABRI MASJID BY THESE DRUNKEN GOONS AND CHURCHES IN ORISSA TODAY ARE BEING RAZED TO GROUND BY THEM!! DO THEY HAVE ANSWER?

So it is the time for them to thank God for their well being THAT they did not met the climax like Ahmedabad muslims or any riot ridden state of India, like Orissa today burning Christians minorities alive and their property !!!

I BEG ALLAH TO BESTOW ALL NON- MUSLIM BRETHREN WITH IMAAN AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS LIFE IN THE WORLD AMEEN SUMA AMEEN..

Anonymous said...

sir...

even if i m not aware about the tit bits of kashmir history ...but still god has given me 2 eyes and a brain to understand wht is happening around...i can check the facts by browsing through the net...so please don't worry about my knowledge....

if u think that my mother is lying to me ...its ur problem not mine ... but hw will u defend ur people when they enter into houses and kill people... oh sorry u can defend them because as per u ... u can take revenge like this..indian laws mean nothing to u... but sir i can name at least 200 students who are rt. now studying indian laws.... wht is this...
hundreds of advocates pratcing indian laws... and million of kasmiri muslim saying that there so and so fund rt was violated...why do they so...if u people want 7 century laws then why these people ..some study...some pratice while some demand for protection...

ask ur muslim judjes to leave jobs and also other govt..officers ..

i m not a child fed with anti k muslim ...but my parents always taught me to be secular.... ,,my best frnd is muslim but not kashmiri muslim ... i know several kashmiri muslim students with me ...but trust me they behave badly with us ..one more thing i m not against kashmiri muslim but against terrorism... even i ll comment against those hindus do any thing against humanity..

one more thing it made me wonder when i read that u ll do so and so if ur leders will order u... i thought all this was a mass moment but now i realised that u people are like puppets of ur leaders.. they for their political gain use u guys...

i read about kashmir conspiacy case ...and i really felt that shiekh abdullah was not wrong and i really blame mr nehru for all this... trust me for this situation nehru is responsible....
i agree with u ... but but ... i don't think even i know that by citing ind. cases of maqbool bhat .. u can say that india was against u ...

one more thing u people opressed us not we ... our poplulation in kashmir was just 5 or 10 % tell me is this possible to supress 90% of the population... by this 5 or 10 %
u people are fighting for the cause of freedom frm india so that u can have muslim state.... is this not communal ... and u also said that india killed hindus and sikhs ...my god big lie ... at least don't lie in the holy month of ramzan ....
and sikhs support ur freedom strugle thats why they are in valley ..cool..

we people hatched conspiracy with jagmohan ..wht a arguement ... so that we will leave our proprerty worth lakhs and live under tents.... trust me .. just add something more in ur argument to make it strong... people laugh at this argument

u know since migration ...last yr i got the oppurtunity to visit my kashmir ... i had a dream desire to see the place where we used to live .. i won't name tht place...it is around 20 0r 30 km frm srinagar ..and we wre not able to go there because my fathers frnd told us tht it will be dangerous for u people to go there...
this is not a bollywood story and if u don't want to believe ...u are free to..and the other things that i told told u are absolutly true...its ur wish now...

if u people say that u have not killed any hindu in valley then .. i can only say ... jooth mat booliye ramzan chal raha hai...

and one more thing as per ur religious text ..a true muslim is one who never fights for land... a true muslim is one who considers other religion as his own ... but sory to say u people interpreted quran sharif th eway it suits u ..... i heard these things frm a muslim

thanks for replying me... u are free if u don't wnt to reply now

Anonymous said...

>>We don’t have anything to do with religion of Idol worshippers;

don't question my faith..because i m not questioning urs...

and one more thing we are not barbaric like u people as u say tooth for tooth etc etc.... and for ur kind information if a person accompanies or (associate ie works with him) another person who commits a murder and he helps him while doing is equally liable... so mr bamasur ur maqbool bhat was not innocent ...he commited 2 murders ..one of diplomat and another of inspector of police ..anyways thanks mr bamasur for the information...

Anonymous said...

>>We don’t have anything to do with religion of Idol worshippers;

don't question my faith..because i m not questioning urs...

and one more thing we are not barbaric like u people as u say tooth for tooth etc etc.... and for ur kind information if a person accompanies or (associate ie works with him) another person who commits a murder and he helps him while doing is equally liable... so mr bamasur ur maqbool bhat was not innocent ...he commited 2 murders ..one of diplomat and another of inspector of police ..anyways thanks mr bamasur for the information...

Anonymous said...

why r u not publishng my all comments.... u said that u people are not like us but let me tell u one thing that all commets were published in thekashmir blog if they were decent.. .. but u bot publishing my simple comments thats great.. i don't think in my earlier comment i wrote anything that was unparlimentry or wrong... u don't have guts..

nyways u want a discussion that goes in ur favour ..do
wht u want .i ll def write on other blog ..

good bye dr waleed shiekh..

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Your last mail has clealry shown your hypocrisy. Kashmiri Muslims don’t have no problems with any one who indulges in idol worshipping in Kashmir.We believe in coexistence. We have no problems if Granth sahib is chanted from a Sikh Gurdhuwara or Keertan from a Mandir of Idol worshippers.This is what I mean.There is no question of touching your faith.It is your community who propagates that Muslims of Kashmir caste us out as they are intolerant towards other religions. You people made tried to give a political struggle a communal one. You are talking about a verse from Glorious Quran which says

And We ordained therein for them" Life for Life, Eye for eye, Nose for nose, Ear for ear, Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, It shall be for him an explanation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, Such are the Zalimun (wrong doers, Polytheists))

You mentioned only about tooth for tooth and that Indicates your hypocrisy ,You didn't mentioned about ." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, It shall be for him an explanation. So where you find us barbaric. Now as you have indeed touched My religion then let me remind you of the words of your Lord Krishna:- He said to Arjun before the battle of Mahabharata

Arjuna turns to Sri Krishna, his friend, his teacher, and his all: "How can I kill them? Will it not be proper to give up this whole kingdom, smacking of blood of my own relatives, and retire to forest in peace? O Krishna, I am unable to decide my further plan of action. I surrender myself at your holy feet. O Lord, please guide me through this difficult uncertainty as I am your disciple and you are my Teacher
Sri Krishna Tells The Gita

Srimad Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter II, verse 2 and 3:
"In such a crisis, whence comes upon thee, O Arjuna, this dejection, un-Aryan-like, disgraceful, and contrary to the attainment of heaven?"
"Yield not to unmanliness, O son of Kunti! Ill doth it become thee. Cast off this mean faint-heartedness and arise, O scorcher of thine enemies."



Chapters II through IX deal with Karma-Yoga - Yoga of selfless action - vis-a-vis Jnana-Yoga. Sri Krishna exhorts Arjuna to fight the war without thinking of the consequences. "Your duty is, and you have right only, to fight; you do not have control over the outcome", says the Lord. The duty of a person as a Karma Yogi is to do the allotted work as worship without expecting any definite fruits thereof.




On listening to this rebuke, Arjuna steadies himself, and further dialogue between Lord Krishna and Arjuna follows in subsequent chapters. Thus the Gita consists of eighteen - 18 - chapters and a total of 700 verses contained in them. (In fact, Gita consists of a dialogue between our lower self and the Higher Self.)
This is what Lord Krishna tells :- Oh Arjuna Kill your cousins and others who are with them if you want to be successful and get a reward of paradise. You say we Muslims are barbaric because 'Tooth for tooth' .what was there in Killing of Kunti's elder son Karna , Was it not the same thinking ' Tooth for Tooth'.
The wheel of Karna's chariot was jammed and his chariot tilts to one side. All the efforts were of no avail to bring it on the ground level. Karna could not fight the war with ease. Sri Krishna told Arjuna to take advantage of the situation and kill Karna. But Arjuna refuses to attack the enemy in distress. He sees Karna pleading to let him remove his jammed wheel. But Sri Krishna reminds Arjuna of the laugher of Karna at the pathetic condition of Draupadi in the royal court. 'Where had Karna's modesty and sense of justice gone then?' asks Sri Krishna. Thus reminded of the insult of Draupadi Arjuna sees no point to show leniency and kills Karna also.
A very great warrior, the greatest archer, and eldest son of Kunti dies thus siding towards Kauravas for the lost love of mother in the childhood. Sri Krishna respectfully performed the last rites on the body of Karna.
I will not make any conclusion ,Let the readers make the conclusion and write their opinions.

Now regarding Maqbool Bhat , maqbool bhat was unarmed and in no way helped Aurenzeb to Shoot that police officer.In police FIR the name of the shooter and accused is written as Aurenzeb,India had to silence the voice of dissent by any means so it fabricated the case as it had done with SAR Gellani and Afzal Guru,also with the Killers of Dr,Ghuru. and also at the time of Mathey's kidnapping and killing He was in Indian jail. According to any constitution of world a person who is serving jail cannot be charged of any thing happening around as long as he is in detention so please think about that. Also If Govt of India wanted to hang him why they kept him as such until Mathey was kidnapped and killed .Because India wanted to take revenge of matheys killing. Also State high court had not been consulted and Farooq Abdullahs puppet govt. didn’t gave consent for His hanging .Farooq himself disclosed to a London based newspaper.Proper legal formalities were not followed.Zail singh was forced to turn down his clemency petition. India has been putting people behind bars from 1947 onwards on fake cases ,Public sfety act.thousands of people are behind bars because of the draconian laws implemented by India so that Kashmiri's will not bow up and question it's occupation. It started from arresting the then un questionable secular leader of Kashmiris Sheikh Abdullah ,When he was arrested in a fake case called ' KASHMIR CONSPIRACY CASE ' his friend whom he trusted the lives and honour of Kashmiri's betrayed him and ordered his areest,Nehru I'm talking about.From that day until today we are being subjugated,massacred,oppressed to it's extreme by the coward occupational army of India and it's Hindu

Anonymous said...

thanks for ur answer ...but i know very well who is a hypocrat and who is not ..even u know this very well...because u are not publishing my mails properly ...
keep ur blog with u ...good by

Asur Samrat Basmasur said...

Dear brother Waleed

It is a great pleasure for all Kashmir's that we have among us the prople who can give a befitting reply to those who try to give a political struggle in Kashmir a communal name. The Verse of Quran and the comparison with the verse of Bhagwat gita is great.I understood that Quran says Pay money equivalent to the inflicted wounds etc to save bloodshed and Gita says Kill and don't think about the consequences. Thy Right is thy work only. It sees killing as a mere work. Any way this is a religion of Hindus and I have nothing against their religion if they follow it.I also understood that Lord Krishna tells arjuna about getting paradise if he does his work at that particular time I.E to Kill his Cousins, teaches, Uncle and other relatives. I can understand the hesitation of Arjuna at that time as it is a daunting task to Kill your own blood. Also about Karna Indeed he was mercilessly Killed By Arjuna when Krishna taunted his courage.Karna was His elder brother. I have heard people talking about Aurenzeb the Mughal emperor killing his brothers for Kingdom here also the fight was for the Kingdom of Pandava who died of a curse while approaching his wife for fulfilling his sexual needs.his Blind brother was at the throne and wanted his son to become the King after him.Anyway I think i should not comment on this as may be someone it consider offensive. Sorry if it is as such.
Maqbool Bhat had not hatched a conspiracy or helped Aurenzeb.He could not be charged with 302IPC , instead he could have been given life imprisonment, But India needed to silence his voice to give a lesson to those who had a similar ideology of Independent Kashmir.Also India didn't returned his mortal remains, Why ? can some one answer

Anonymous said...

Maqbool Butt was born in Trehgam village[3] in the Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir. After studying at a local school and at St Joseph's College, Srinagar, he joined the University of Peshawar where he studied Urdu. Then he went to Britain, where the JKLF was originally founded in Birmingham, England. Subsequently, he broke off into the JKNLF which started out as the armed wing of the Plebiscite Front,[4] and was prominent in the armed uprising against Indian forces in Kashmir.

Bhat and another person were arrested, and tried for murder. The defence argued that Amar Chand had been killed by the bullets from Aurangzeb, and indeed the FIR against Bhat had not listed murder.[5] However, Maqbool was also involved in the shootout, and was found guilty and sentenced to death. In 1968, Bhat, along with two others, managed to dig a tunnel under the Srinagar prison, and escaped to Pakistan, where they were briefly arrested.

In 1971, Maqbool Bhat masterminded the hijacking of an Indian Fokker aircraft to Lahore,[4] Pakistan and the hijackers declared affiliation with JKLF under the leadership of Maqbool Bhat. The Pakistani authorities then arrested Bhat and a number of others. He was released in 1974, and two years later, Bhat returned to India, where he was soon captured. His earlier death sentence was still valid, and he petitioned to the President of India Giyani Zail Singh for clemency on the grounds of an unfair trial. On February 6, 1984, the JKLF murdered the Indian diplomat Ravindra Mhatre, in Birmingham. One of the demands in this kidnap was that Maqbool Bhat be released. After this, his petition for clemency was quickly rejected, and Bhat was executed in the Tihar Jail in New Delhi on February 11, 1984.


THIS IS UR HERO

Asur Samrat Basmasur said...

Dear Pamposh / Neha

Well you seem to be lacking patience .Be kool it takes some time to publish the cooments.Even the Kashmir blog updates the comments after 24 hrs. Also you and all other people are welcome for a productive disscussion.We are all Kashmiris and its better for us to understand our views and mistakes if any and to rectify them.

Anonymous said...

well mr asur smrat ... till this date my 5 comments were not published... even i wrote before u ..anyways thanks

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear Pamposh

Only God knows who is a real hypocrite.

Well theres is no logic for me to stop publishing any of your comments as long as there is no abusive language.I couldnt find any comments but after thoroughly searching I did locate some of them with the comments from brother Omer who had written even before you. after going through your comment on Maqbool Bhat I first thought not to publish it as it is a 100% replica of wikipedia, but to expose your knowledge before readers of this blog I did decided to publish it.comments.Whatever I had from you are published. If you feel any comment of ur's is missing write it again Inshallah u'll find it here. As Asur Samrat said Its better for us Kashmiris to understand each other and rectify the mistakes and misunderstandings between us.I would like to see more of your comments , arguements etc positively. Also I'll answer all your questions Inshallah but a quick answer about following Leaders."we will follow them until their goal will be acheiving freedom from tyrant India.As Gellani said yesterday India will never find another sheikh Abdullah who can be befooled of farce secularism and democracy.If any leader will deviate from the cause we will cast him out.Nation is big than Leader.


KINLDKY READ from my previous comment as
Now Gods calamity has falled on you and despite of hatred ness of Indians and Kashmiri Hindus towards us ,Our Leader Syed Geelani and Malik has condemmed the blasts.

Wallah Yasimuk Minannas

Waleed

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear brother Omer
A/A
YIMAN KYA CHA PATA ISLAM KYA CHU.INSAN GASE GODA JAHALAT TI BOGUS TRAVUN PATA PARUN KYA CHU WANAN ALLAH SUBHANA TAALA.YIMAN PANINI PATA. YIM CHI ZALAN MISULMANAN TYROV SITH.AIS HAKOV NA TITI KARIKT.NARUK AZAB HAKI KHUDAI DIS BUS.MEIN CHU MAZA LAGAN YIHIND TAAR BOZNAS I FITRAVNAS.KALUK SUIN NA PATA KYA AUS NERAN CHIM BAHAS KARNI.

Anonymous said...

main maharah chi Pata ki bahas kith kan chi karan... magar afsoos thoy chuv ni kath ti asal path tagan karin ...main kya apooz wanov ki tohi hahev ni main taraz.. bakiyay yeh toh bhat sind khtr wonwoh tath ditmov main javab.. toh chiv main koth varyah baid ...bi chasav toh seeth tameez san kath karan magar tohi nivow tamiuk galath matlab..

baiy 1 chiz yeh tohi gita ji hind sar ditv tamuk matlab bi samjahov tohi...TAMUK MATLAB CHI KI INSANS PAAZ KARM KARUN ..TI TAMUK YEH TI RESULT AISE TAMUK PAZ NI TAMIS CHINTA KARIN..

BAKIY TOH WANIW KI KARAN MOOR TAM SINDH PANNIN BAI .. SO MOR NI TAM RAJYA YA RIYASAT KATHRE ..BALKE ISLIYE SO OOS GALAT KARAN..

BAIY 1 KAATH YEM RIYASAT KATHR TOH CHUV NA WANAN KI ARJUN MAARE PANIN BAIY .. SU RIYASAT AISE TAM KHABAR KAR TIMAN DITMACH.. TIMOV OOS DRAUPADI SUNDH AAPMAN KOORMOT TAAWAY GOOV MAHABHARAT...

AT LAST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE PEOPLE USE THE VERSES OF GITA JI FOR THE GOODNESS OF MANKIND BUT U PEOPLE HAVE INTERPRETED UR RELIGIOUS TEXTS IN AWAY THAT FAVOURS U ...THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE

Asur Samrat Basmasur said...

We do understand well in English what Krishna is telling Arjun and no need to translate English into Kashmiri.Whom you are trying to fool here.Gone are those days when you'r community for reading a letter of Muslim used to take Begaar from him first and then read him the selected portions from the letter. You have yourself started this discussion when you deliberately labelled Muslims barbaric as they follow ' Tooth for Tooth ' logic as described in Glorious Quran. When Dr,Waleed gave you a befitting answer you cannot accept the reality. Quran says no bloodshed if the person who inflicted harm pays the money equivalent to the evil he has done.There is nothing by which you could prove Muslims barbaric. Where as Lord Krishna tells Arjun in Shrimad Bagwat Gita that

"In such a crisis, whence comes upon thee, O Arjuna, this dejection, un-Aryan-like, disgraceful, and contrary to the attainment of heaven?"
"Yield not to unmanliness, O son of Kunti! Ill doth it become thee. Cast off this mean faint-heartedness and arise, O scorcher of thine enemies

In clear words that Your refusal to kill your cousins ,teachers, relatives, Uncles is contrary to the attainment of heaven. So o son of Kunti Go and Kill them .Also Lord Krishna tells Him that "thy right is thy work only and not the reward of the work.
This thing clearly indicates who barbaric is. You have written your comment in Kashmiri that Because of the Insult of Draupudi the wife of all five Pandoo sons, the war of Mahabharata took place. Kindly write your comment in English so that all other will also understand what you are writing. You may argue that Waleed had also written but that is addressed to Omar. but still I'll advice Waleed to translate this comment for a broader audience to understand. About the Killing of Karna the elder brother of Arjuna, lord Krishna taunts him and reminds him of the insult of Draupdi in the court room where she was won in a gamble by Shakuni uncle of Kaurwa crown prince Dhuryodhan. A question arises How come one can put on stake ones wife. Pandavas lost that Gamble and Draupdi became a slave woman.I am by no means insulting her, that’s not my point. Just writing facts for the people who don’t know about this war.Now Lord Krishna by his taunting makes Arjuna to shoot his Elder brother to kill him mercilessly. As per shatriya dharma unarmed cannot be killed until he fights. Karna was busy in taking the wheel out from the whole .He was unaware of the conspiracy which was contrary to the shatrya dharma hatched by the duo to kill him in cold blood.This was a daunting task for Arjuna and any other person who faces similar position.

Now as our friend has mentioned that it was the Insult of Draupdi that led to Mahabharata war,A war which saw cousins brothers relatives teachers killing each other for a woman. Indeed it is not so it was a war for the kingdom of Pandoo who died prematurely because of a curse while approaching a woman probably his wife. As Dr,waleed has mentioned Arjunas question to Lord Krishna

: "How can I kill them? Will it not be proper to give up this whole kingdom, smacking of blood of my own relatives, and retire to forest in peace? O Krishna, I am unable to decide my further plan of action. I surrender myself at your holy feet. O Lord, please guide me through this difficult uncertainty as I am your disciple and you are my Teacher

Here is no mention of Draupdi but of the Kingdom he wants to give to His cousins in order to avoid blood shed. My friend pamposh ,If he is still telling truth that it was all because of a slave womans Insult by Kaurawas then still the war and the barbaric killings in this war cannot be justified. You cannot Kill humanity because a woman has been Insulted if you defend then you must defend the cause of Kashmir also where counless women were sexually assaulted by Indian occupational army ,lakhs of Muslims were massacred ,children are being thrashed ,old men are beaten and shot at point blank range, Religious places are desecrated. This is your Dharma Yudh also then to raise your voice in favour of oppressed.
You are soory for Sheikh Abdullah ,No need He deserved this as He believed the farce of secularism of India. Now tell me when our leader was humiliated and subjugated that means in practical that whole Kashmir was Subjugated and humiliated. So that was the last straw and people realized Indias nefarious ambitions and dissent started resulting in banning of plebiscite front by India .Abdullah was the leader of Hindus and Sikhs also in Kashmir and no power in India or world can question his secular credentials . When you accept that our leader was humiliated and betrayed, then how come your community still remained faithful to India and helped it to suppress the dissent by working covertly or openly for the tyrant India.India used Hindu card to lure you and that’s why Kashmir Pandits are not in Kashmir.

I don’t know where you are living and what type of information you have about Kashmir , If you'll check even Dr,waleeds blog there is a topic about Akali Dal chief Simran jeet Singh Maan who just few days back visited Kashmir and supported the cause of Kashmiris by asking UN to take both Kashmirs under it.You are making a laugh of yourself. By reading some lines in wikipedia and then pasting them here will not work.

Anonymous said...

mr asur..i ll defntly answer ur questions and of dr walled... but not this time in the evening ... its not because i don't have answers ..its because its not possible for me to write this time in detail... ny ways i ll aswer ur 1 question .. u said i made a laugh of my self by cutting and pasting from wikipedia ...but this too means that i m not at all changing the facts ... ok wikipedia is not my website ... hope u are aware.... and its not an indian site too..and i wrote in kasmiri becuse its my mother tough and u r no body to stop me ... that comment was not for u .... ok ...anyways i was not slandring ur relg text but my motive was to tell u that u people interpreted ur rel text in wrong way..thats it

well u ll def get my answers in the evening ...

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Asur Samrat

Well nice comment. Pamposh has to do a lot of home work.I'll interestingly watch the coversation.And also to Pamposh what do you mean by Tameez saan kath karan .I hope you have not forgotten shistachar.Even enemies talk to each other politely.Wikipedia is not a authentic website and thats why its contents are not of repute.I think that's what Asur was trying to tell you.Also In dharma yudh as Bishama had he fought even he didn't wanted to because of His promise to be always with the state.He fought bravely and once even krishna took the wheel to kill him had Arjuna not pacified him.He also was killed covertly u know better.
And where u found wrong interpretation of Quran.scan it or give link to it.There is no need to interpret anything wrongly ,it is islamophobia and propaganda .
WALEED

Anonymous said...

This guy pomposh seems to be a simple mischief monger. He's having grandiose ideas about his religion and loves to spew venom against Muslims. I'm impressed by the comment's of both Dr,waleed and asur samrat. The comparison has made it crystal clear who is barbaric but I think it is better not to deviate from the political disscussion into religious one. I also admit that this was initiated by pomposh by quoting an extract from a verse of quran. Its very unfortunate that people of a particular community are always trying to give this political struggle a communal name.

Thanks
A kashmiri.

Anonymous said...

well u r first answer

u wrote that shri krishna told arjun to kill his relative but sad u don't know the history behind this... the kaurava ie his cousion made them to live in exile..then said nothing ...then they made them a palace made a very matter that catches fire easily and burned that palace when they were living there ...thhey would have died that day but some body told them and they escaped still ...still they did nothing ...it was after this they insulted draupadi and then they could not control and thats why this war occured... and u know why shri krishna told him to kill his relative ...because this was just ..its not the war againt ur cousion or relative but it was war against evil ,bad ... thats why shri krishna said him that tum karam karo fal ki chinta mat karo...even lord krishna killed his own relative after sparing him 100 time..
if u don't trust me ..go and read mahabharta as a whole not only a part then u ll understand

secondly i m very sorry if i hurted ur religious feeling... i m no body to comment ..

3rdly mr asur samrat the religion of hindu is not killing only ... the present world is an example and wht u said about lord krishna i have explained that ..
and u compare aurenzeb with pandava ..we hindus really appercte akbar ...but auranzeb was not good ..he was a cruel king ... even there were a lot of hindu cruel kings ... ya u can compare kaurva with auranzeb ...becuse they did really bad with padnva.. again i have explned it above...

by the way then tell me under which section should he have been charged ..where he could get life imprsnt ment but not death sentce..
again i pasted the histry of makbool bhat .. its not my problem ..if u people don't consider wikipedia as relvant source..

Anonymous said...

well dr walled shiekh ..i still rember the shaistachar ...but i felt bad about the comment u wrote to umer..and umers comments are not worth discussion.. only thing i want to tell him that u are nobody and he made himself clear by saying that we are alive .. this means that u people killed kashmiris..


and mr anonymous .. great language .. well do read my comments and u will getanswer who satrted a communal war

again if i hurted anyone relgious feeling ..i m sorry ..and please if i forgot to answer anything ..please do tell me.. ill answer to the best of my knowledge

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Your comment with a link about atrocities on kashmiri Pandits doesn't work to be published.
1- I have already posted linkes to two of the propaganda sites under
Propaganda against Kashmiri Muslims by Kashmiri Hindus, all fabricated Lies,Bollywood style stories. you can find them at the end of the blog. i wery well know what has been written in all these sites. Moreover the site you have quoted has more vivtems Muslims than Hindus as you were lamenting. In all that I found only one case authentic of a pandit mother and Daughter namely Miss Archana Braroo & Mrs Bimla Braroo,Krakhud.Believe me I myself was a witness to to the public rage after this incident.But let me tell you that the two culprits who did this were executed very shortly by the Militant command .I am very sorry for them .This was a Shame for the whole Kashmiri nation.I was a young boy of 17 yrs of age those days and also protested against this carnage.

Rest of all is all propaganda.Indeed Muslim women were targetted again for links with spy agencies so were targetted kashmiri Hindus.Also worth to mention here that the most of the cases shown here are of 1991 to 1993,that means after your community had left.So you cannot Justify your exhodus by post dated events. I'll publish about your reply to Mr,Asur Samrat with out the link and its details .

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"And this comment for asur samrat ...u said that this war was for the a slave women ... i would like to correct u that in hindu religion womens are treated as goddess ..i ll say that this was
against the evil ... kauravas were bad people .... and to tell the future generations that one has to fight against the evil ..when it crossess its limits..if u justify that kaurvas were right then i cannot help...

well u say that in kashmir womens were raped , people wr mass , etc ...i ll only say tht kasmiri muslim womens were raped by milltants 2.. ur very own biita karate admitted.. then why don't u camplain at that time.. ur milltants klld ur people ..u knw very well why don't u utter this..
if u ll make plans to killarmy obviously they ll kill u whem u ll move with a gun toward s him ... next hw will u defed wht happened in jammu few days back at chinore ..
i don't say that all this is good but i only want to tell u .. u reap wht u sow..
well i want to show u a video

You are very now and then talking about Mr, Farooq Ahmad Dar alis Bita karate and his infamous video during his captivity. Kindly tell me What you expect a person to say if he is having a gun pointed at Him. I have seen that video and is also saved on my HD, He is talking clearly like a puppet. But still he states that the people he executed was on the orders of His commanders and he has no personnel heartedness in them .also he mentioned about one of the person he executed that the Guy was linked to RSS ,The same RSS who with the help of Patiala forces and Jana sangh Massacred 300.000 Muslim men women and children in mere 3 days in Jammu and that’s why today Jammu city is a Hindu dominated area.Again to remind you that whosoever was killed irrespective of his faith had links with the occupational agencies so spy's have to be neutralized and it is done every where. Now again regarding this Farooq Ahmad.If he is was a deadly perpetrator of aggression against Kashmiris then Kinly tell me why govt. of India released him in 2005. Again it shows the media villain who was necessary for India that time to get the K.hindus out and you people fell prey to that.

Regarding my comment to Omer there is nothing abusive against you. It is a general conversation.if you read it from start I was telling him about Islam and about the day to day discussion.that I love to hear their lies and to break them, they don’t known even about yesterday's events but come for discussion. This comment was because you said Sikhs don’t support our struggle
http://www.risingkashmir.com/index.php%20option=com_content&task=view&id=6700

Anonymous said...

well half of my comment is missing ... and u could have displayed that site.. inever told that in this link only kashm hindu womens are shown ... but i wanted to display a part that wht milltants did with womens either hindu ,muslim or sikh .. mind this it is only a part .. if u don't wnt to shw its ur wish ..nyways wht about the destruction of temples...

truth is truth ... if not on this blog ..on other blog world can see this

Asur Samrat Basmasur said...

You are talking about pandavas been sent to exile but you have not written that they were given Indra prast area ( not sure about name) for establishing their own Kingdom. You did not mention how crown Prince Dhuryodhan was Humiliated by Draupudi in Indraprast when he was walking in the glasshouse .What you expect from a crown prince who is made a purpose of laugh by a bunch of arrogant women including Draupidi in Indraprast. I very well know about lakshagraha and the fire etc .You are talking about women in Hindu religion are treated as DEVI's , Ok let it be so then kindly tell us This Great woman who had five Husbands simultaneously ,All five sons of King Pandoo . How they put her on the stake? Is a woman, a Devi as you said, a lifeless thing that It can be won or lost in a gamble. Now please don’t tell me that I'm fabricating things there. Draupidi the Queen and wife of All five Pandoo princes was put on stake by Her elder Husband and he lost her in the gamble. Those days gambling was considered a prestigious game among royal family .Duryodhana The crown prince of kaurwas won her ,His uncle Shakuni who was a very cunning person and a experienced gamble player played on his behalf. Now you are taking about ( APMAN ) insult by Kawravas inflicted on Draupadhi. She was Insulted by her own Husbands when they put her on stake, Once they won her she became a slave woman so had become all her Husbands. As said by Karan at that time ' EK DASI KA MAAN KYA AUR APMAN KYA " By logic He was right. Even when Pandoo sons lost all they had, their Kingdom which was given to them by Kawravas to avoid clash , Their universal Queen .The Kauravas returned everything back to them , precious of all their freedom. Draupudi became a free woman again . This is how it was prior to Mahabharata war,Rest we all have alredy read .Now let the readers decide for themselves who was right and who was wrong.Also I am here by no means to Hurt your religious sentiments , All I wrote because you had advised me read full about Mahabharata war and this thing compelled me to write the events as such..I could have argued your Women Devi concept also but we are not here to debate on religion as advised by anonymous ,Lets close this topic and concentrate how Kashmiris were made victims by both India and Pakistan so that they will not make a free secular independent Kashmir as it was .We all very well know how we lived with peace and brotherhood and inshaallah we will again live together in a secular Independent Kashmir.
Regarding bitta karate. If Govt. of India could not produce a chare sheet for him in 18 years then it indicates that He was a TV villain as written by Dr, Waleed.We Kashmiri Muslims didn’t went to the Home minister to secure his release.Supreme court let him free , the highest authority in India.It was decided by Your buddy India. If he is involved in some carnage prove it in the court and hang him. It is not now 1984 that it can bring fabricated proof and witnesses and Hang Maqbool Bhat..Also if a person has not been apart of conspiracy of murder He cannot be charged with 302,308. It was a revenge Killing for the the death of Mathey and Why India didn’t returned his mortal remains?

Anonymous said...

mr asur samrat ..frst tell ur doctor to publish my comments as they were written and not edited ...then only expect answer frm me . because it is useless to write otherwise

Anonymous said...

What a fool you are Waleed. I feel nothing but pity for you. You seem to have built an illusionary world in your mind in which India is devil incarnate. I wonder if you have ever lived in kashmir?
The sad thing is that you will never see the truth (or the many shades of it) and will die a bitter, disillusioned man.

Get a life!

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

What truth about India you are talikng about.When martial law was imposed on kashmiris in August and 80 innocent muslims were killed by Indian occupational troops where were you with your illsion of a great secular and democratic India.Today when India is holding farcial elections under the shadow of 800000 troops.People are imprisioned in their own homes and one distric is forced to vote.Instead of being ashamed you guys boast that you are subjugating Kashmiris,but no,you cannot subjugate us.

Unknown said...

Dear Waleed
Assalamualakum
First of al I want to clear it to the Mr/Ms Anonymous whosoever he/she is::This is his/her chronic moral weakness that she has used the word fool, pity!!! The qualities
which a moraly weak person has, he/she always attributes it to others.

A morally weak person cannot realise TRUTH (OR MANY SHADES OF IT) even he/she dies and is given life a million times back!!! Abu Jahal ( LA-anaullah) tops the list.

Moreover I want again clear to Mr/Ms. Anonymous that Mr/Ms. Anonymous; does not live in Dr. Walleed's heart that he/she can assess that India is a Devil incarnate as per Dr. Waleed's
blog & thinking!!!

Allah has only "Ilmi Gaib" what lies in any body's heart, Allah-u-ta'ala only knows.

A person who is concerned in heart of hearts only cares for his people, his qaum, and this blog is an example of that!!!

Now at last, since Mr/Ms. Anonymous has himself/herself has assessed that India is a devil incarnate, it is true I will give you an example, Uma Bharti who was firebrand lady of BJP, was expelled from BJP without anymore negotiation and explanation. DEVILS ALWAYS FIGHT AMONG THEMSELVES. PEOPLE OF INDIA ARE LOSING CONFIDENCE IN THEIR LEADERS
DAY AFTER DAY BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION AND BUREACRACY!!!

FINALLY I WANT TO QUOTE A COUPLET OF SHAIKHUL-ALAM (REHMATULAAHILEH)

"VATHI HOKHAN HENDER GREZEN
TELI MALI ASI VANAR RAAJ"

I GIVE IT TASHREEH
"THE PERSONS WHO ARE CAPABLE OF JUSTIFIABLE ADMINISTRATION WILL
VANISH"

"THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE CAPABILITY
WILL RULE " ( VANAR ALSO MEANS MONKEY & MONKEYS SNATCH ANYTHING
WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION)

EXAMPLES LALU PRASAD ( DOODH WALA)
MAYAWATI (SCHEDULE CASTE)
I CAN EVEN WRITE A BOOK WITH ALL POLITICIANS WHICH MR/MS ANONYNOUS HAS HIMSELF/HERSELF ASSESED AS DEVILS.

THEY ALL HAVE THE HISTORY OF SNATCHING LIKE FODDER SCAM ETC ETC.

THEY EITHER AT CENTRE OR IN ANY STATE ARE DEVILS AND IT MAKES INDIA A DEVIL STATE AS PER THE ASSESSMENT OF MR./MS ANONYMOUS.

WASALAAM
OMER

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Barak Allahu Fi

Anonymous said...

It is rather interesting for me to read this blog. Thanks for it. I like such themes and anything connected to this matter. I would like to read more soon.

FREEDOM STRUGGLE

Muslims In China Slaughtered

The slaughtering of Uigurs by Chinese occupation forces and its Han groups has once again reopened the history of occupation and slavery.This time it’s the Muslims of urumchi, The Uigurs.Uigurs as Kashmiri Muslims are a proud race and have a relationship dating back to centuries. As Israel the proxy of America and other western powers in the middle east ,China setteled the han ethnic groups in uigur dominated areas and changed the demography of that place.When Kashmiris opposed to the Land transfer to Hindus last Year they were having the same fears as India is also no angel and its oppression and atrocities on Kashmiris are well known..Lets pray for the Uigurs and the Tibetians .They are facing the same type of oppression and genocide as Kashmiris face.

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PUPPET ASSEMBLY TRUTH

INDIA KILLED THESE KASHMIRIS,THEY DISAPPEARED IN CUSTODY

INDIA KILLED THESE KASHMIRIS,THEY DISAPPEARED IN CUSTODY
DONT SELL THEIR BLOOD

Orphans of Driver Lateef Ahmad

Orphans of Driver Lateef Ahmad
He was lynched by Hindu mob because He was a Kashmiri Muslim

REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE

REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE
INDIA KILLED THEM,THEY DISAPPEARED

22 Bloody days of Gaza

Israel should be branded a terrorist state for its 22-day assault on the Gaza Strip, Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad told the Arab summit.“Arabs should declare an unequivocal support for the Palestinian resistance ... I call on the Arab summit to officially declare Israel as a terrorist state for the crime it did in Gaza,” Assad said.“Ceasefire does not mean the end of aggression as the invading forces are still in Gaza,” the Syrian leader said, urging “Arab solidarity... for our causes.”The Syrian president stressed that the divisions among Palestinians have made the Israeli aggression easier, which also reflected the Arab division, expressing his hope that Palestinians would overcome their divisions through ending the violence in Gaza, seeking the pullout of Israeli forces, lifting the blockade and opening border crossings. Al-Assad also called on Arab nations to take further steps to promote the Arab economic integration and respond to the global financial crisis, saying integration can ensure less losses and protect Arab economies from future crises. An Arab initiative for peace with Israel is “dead” and Arab countries should end all ties with the Jewish state, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said Friday. Speaking at an emergency meeting held for Gaza in Doha, Assad said “all direct and indirect” ties with Israel should be cut in protest at its offensive in Gaza.“I consider the Arab initiative with Israel “dead”, he said. – Agencies