Wednesday, September 17, 2008

INTRESTING COMMENT I FOUND WHILE SURFFING NET

usmani
4 September, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Hey

Would like to say its amazing website v nice pics but honestly Kashmir is even more beautiful its jus so special and incomparable. My parents come from Muzafarabad Kashmir so called Azad Kashmir I don’t consider it ‘Free’ until it is ruled by armies Pakistan on one side with sweetness and India on other side with brutality…. I first came to Kashmir Muzaffarabad Which is capital of Kashmir in 2001 and lived there for 3 years it has been a nice experience but I have noticed Pakistan army influence in al walks of life …. Every aspect of society has Pakistani stamp on it, I am not anti Pakistani but we have nothing to do with Pakistan or India InshAllah Kashmir will emerge as a separate state in world map one day.

To Indians here:

You got no chance Indians we jus don’t want u!!!!!! Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri s that’s what we say and…..

To Pakistanis:

Who gave you the authority to gift Kashmir land to china, make Gilgit and Baltistan as ‘Northern Areas!

Thanks for your ‘moral’ support which changes with every government one day its freedom struggle other day its secondary issue!

Kashmir free from India and Pakistan that’s what we dream of and will until…. it comes true!
http://kashmir.wordpress.com/2006/04/27/azad-kashmir-pictures/#comment-10201

7 comments:

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Some one namely Sk Jaiswal has send a very interesting comment. I didn't published it as it was a comment of a person written in sheer frustration with hatredness towards Kasmiri Muslims. The important thing about to write about his comment is that he blames Kashmiri Muslims for Delhi blasts and advices that Kashmiri Muslims should settle their scores with Hindus in Kashmir itself and not in Delhi as He along with his so called Delhi Muslims are scared of reprisals .He threatens that some day patience of Hindus will end and then they'll attack Muslims all together. i.e Army ,police and public. Unfortunately this Jaiswal dosent knows that his Occupational army with fanatic population of Jammu has long ago started a war against Kashmiri Muslims. He dosen't know that everyday his occupational army performs massacres on this pious land .He is scared to its core by a blast. I wonder what he'll do if he will see every lane of Kashmir red with the blood of innocent Kashmiris massacred by his occupational army just because kashmiri's don’t want to remain slaves of India and Pakistan., and want freedom from their illegal occupation.

The blast in Delhi has been conducted by INDIAN MUSLIMS; We Kashmiris have nothing to do with it. Two Kashmiri persons also were killed in the blasts. Don't poke your nose here. We have nothing to do with your Delhi or its so called Muslims .We don’t have anything to do with your whole India.

Anonymous said...

Dear Dr.Waleed Sheik:

Can't we all live with peace, happiness and harmony ? Hate and violence gives only grief, pain and ruins.

Its true i do not belong to Kashmir and i do not know the ground realities. But the pictures and views what is put at this blog/site do not seem to be true, as well.

Descrimination, un-just and crime are all over but do we think AZADI is the solution ? Many regions of India are not happy due to bad politicians and its policies. Leave aside about politicians, look around - right from our house, school, postoffice, bank, court, police,land,property, sales tax, income tax, excise...everywhere we have reasons to be sad due to bad system. Corruptions all over. Delhi has problems, Haryana has problems, UP, Jammu, Kashmir, North-East and everywhere, the problems all over. Azadi is not the answer. Its collective responsibility of our own citizens. If they elect good people, the system will change and so will change the unjust for all and justice will prevail for all.

You, we and all know why Pakistan is supporting separists. Its revenge for Bangladesh. Has Pakistan been able to keep happy its own people - Sindh, Balooch, Peshawar and Afghans and all ? So whats the guaranttee that they will not charge you the cost of support.

As for as the tension between Indian and Pakistan is concerned, there is no hope for peace untill good politicians come at both the sides. Some time we hv a General who kills the terrorists inside the Lal-Maszid and sometime Ms.Benjir is shot in open and later on somebody takes over as President who has been named in Pakistan as - Mr.10%

As for as the viloence and cruelity of Indian forces are concerned, I am not either supporting them or criticizing them because i do not know the ground realities there. I also do not know what you are writing at your blog/site is if true and how much true. But yes, Indian Police and Army has been criticized in all parts of India not necessarily for Kashmiri Moslems. But mind it, Army and forces act as per the orders from the state and central govts. Why don't you elect your own people who safeguard Kashmiri's interest, fights for unjust. Don't you see that in UP, Mayawati does what she wants. Central Govt dares not to intervene. Narendra Modi does what ever he likes. These are the way you can fight for the welfare of Kashmiris without violence and risk of lives of Kashmiris. Why to be blamed by provoking and exciting the normal kashmiris for Azadi.

I trust i hv tried to give some light and shown a bit different way of thinking. Please note, its not being scared of bomb blasts but for what ? We have seen freedom-fighters who walk and talk together. Not that, to transplant the bombs like cowards and kill the innocent women and children. What you have to say for those innocent women and children being killed in bomb blasts and all ?

I hope allmighty Allah shows us the right path and gives peace and happiness for all of us.

Anonymous said...

Indeed we all can live with peace as we lived before the occupation of Kashmir by Occupational troops of India 0n 27th Oct 1947. Our problem is not as you have mentioned about various states of India. We are an occupied country and are fighting for our freedom. You are telling about elect a govt and then dictate your terms etc with the union of India. We had our Prime Minister our President,India Arrested our then Leader Sheikh Abdullah and humiliated him ,kept him in prison for seceral years and eroded the special status of Kashmir through puppet assembly while he was kept detained.During 61 years of our occupation we have seen enough of this absurd democracy and its pseudo secularism from India. We are killed with impunity from armed protection special powers act, Massacres are order of the day, Our women are molested , children thrashed for asking FREEDOM. This you call democracy.Very recently India enforced a covert economic blockade of Kashmir, Our people were starving, babies were without milk ,Hypertensive and Diabetic patients were without medicine.Hospitals were without life saving drugs and Indian population remained silent Why? Because we are not real citizens of India but its slaves.Slaves of ex Slaves and slaves have no rights.When we protest we are short without any provocation .We are a nation which is under severe form of subjugation ,oppression and brutality from India. You can see a few examples of India's real face in the pictures uploaded by the holder of this blog. I am also a Kashmiri and assure u that each and evey thing here is 99% true, If you still doubt the trueneess of these atrocities then what one can say to a person who even after seeng truth dosen't want to accept it.I understand you guys think very high of India and it's difficult for you to accept the truth as truth always is bitter.
In this blog you can see a story about the massacre of Sikhs performed by Indian agencies and then blamed Kashmiri Muslims ,But Clincton exposed this lie also sikhs also Blame India for it.Kindly read it. Sikh Leader from Punjab also castigates India on performing genocide of Kashmiri's . Also the children fallent to the bullets of the oppressors tell you their stories them selves. 11 months old baby on the right side of this blog with 3 years of child killed by your occupational army is a real eyeopener for anybody .Rest depends upon the world.

YAMBIR ZAL

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr.Yambir Zal,

You know what descrimination, fights and hate are all over. But not for ever. We can change it but we have to start somehow and somewhere and may be differently.

See, which part of the world has been in peace after violence. If they fought, they had to pay a very heavy price for that. See our partition with Pakistan...both the countries are still paying its costs...And they are yet to pay and nobody knows for how long ?


So, the peace and sacrifice will surely help. India also can not put its armies for ever. And so is Pakistan. If there is any tensions and fights further, both the countries will go 100 years back and from there they will have to start. So whats the use. We fight and we suffer and our next generations suffer.

You put the picture of Indian President with a gun. What a mockery here ? 99% people will laugh it out. Its height of anything. Indian president...what can she do ? You should have put the pictures of Indian Prime Minister who actually has the power or Sonia Gandhi's picture who is the real power of India at present.

Please tell me, if India has 5 lac army personnel in Kashmir or nearby, you mean all the 5 lac army personnel are bad. They all molest Kashmiri women ?

How many children are killed by army personnel ? Is that Army has gone mad and have made the plan to shoot only children and to leave the armed militants and protestors ?

Taking the snap and clip of those leaders who itself are like Punjabi terrorists (Simrat Jeet Singh Maan), you can not justify anything. It may be just a way to provoke Kashmiri people and satisfy your lies. I am saying that IT MAY BE... Becasue as you know i dont know the true picture.

But i can say that our army is not communal. They can not be killers of innocent women and kids. See the exceptions are all over. But you can not label the entire army with a single incidents.

In India, when any communal riot is there, army is called. And we see the result immediately.

IF OUR ARMY WAS COMMUNAL OR HEARTLESS THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED HUNDREDS OF AGITATORS/RIOTERS AFTER DEMOLISSION OF BABRI MASZID. EVERYBODY BE IT HINDU, MOSLEMS, SIKHS OR CHRISTIANS HAVE FAITH IN OUR ARMY.

As for as the brutality is concerned, in fact the armed forces bear the brunt. Most of the times they dont hv the authority to use force when riot is on. They have lotsa restrictions but the terrorists they prove more brutal.

WELL, YOU KNOW THERE WONT BE ANY END OF HATE, VIOLENCE AND ALL AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. AND I REITERATE THAT peace and sacrifice will help for yours and everybody's cause.

You know, at my blog,
o3.indiatimes.com/skjdesk
there was so much hate and violent comments but later on all tired and there is a great calm.

Hopeing for peace and happiness for all and all the time.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr.Yambir Zal,

You know what descrimination, fights and hate are all over. But not for ever. We can change it but we have to start somehow and somewhere and may be differently.

See, which part of the world has been in peace after violence. If they fought, they had to pay a very heavy price for that. See our partition with Pakistan...both the countries are still paying its costs...And they are yet to pay and nobody knows for how long ?


So, the peace and sacrifice will surely help. India also can not put its armies for ever. And so is Pakistan. If there is any tensions and fights further, both the countries will go 100 years back and from there they will have to start. So whats the use. We fight and we suffer and our next generations suffer.

You put the picture of Indian President with a gun. What a mockery here ? 99% people will laugh it out. Its height of anything. Indian president...what can she do ? You should have put the pictures of Indian Prime Minister who actually has the power or Sonia Gandhi's picture who is the real power of India at present.

Please tell me, if India has 5 lac army personnel in Kashmir or nearby, you mean all the 5 lac army personnel are bad. They all molest Kashmiri women ?

How many children are killed by army personnel ? Is that Army has gone mad and have made the plan to shoot only children and to leave the armed militants and protestors ?

Taking the snap and clip of those leaders who itself are like Punjabi terrorists (Simrat Jeet Singh Maan), you can not justify anything. It may be just a way to provoke Kashmiri people and satisfy your lies. I am saying that IT MAY BE... Becasue as you know i dont know the true picture.

But i can say that our army is not communal. They can not be killers of innocent women and kids. See the exceptions are all over. But you can not label the entire army with a single incidents.

In India, when any communal riot is there, army is called. And we see the result immediately.

IF OUR ARMY WAS COMMUNAL OR HEARTLESS THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED HUNDREDS OF AGITATORS/RIOTERS AFTER DEMOLISSION OF BABRI MASZID. EVERYBODY BE IT HINDU, MOSLEMS, SIKHS OR CHRISTIANS HAVE FAITH IN OUR ARMY.

As for as the brutality is concerned, in fact the armed forces bear the brunt. Most of the times they dont hv the authority to use force when riot is on. They have lotsa restrictions but the terrorists they prove more brutal.

WELL, YOU KNOW THERE WONT BE ANY END OF HATE, VIOLENCE AND ALL AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. AND I REITERATE THAT peace and sacrifice will help for yours and everybody's cause.

You know, at my blog,
o3.indiatimes.com/skjdesk
there was so much hate and violent comments but later on all tired and there is a great calm.

Hopeing for peace and happiness for all and all the time.

Dr.Waleed Khalid Sheikh said...

Dear S.Jaiswal

Peace be on you. Its very unfortunate that the majority of people inside are unaware of the reign of terror which Indian occupational army has leashed on Kashmiri Muslims. This blog has nothing to do with politics or obtaining any monetary benefit from any quarter of world. It is a try by a Kashmiri who sees his country under the barbaric Indian rule. You argue on behalf of your army that are they all bad , but ironically when it comes to Kashmir yes they are all one and the same. You don’t know the truth but that doesn't mean that whatever Kashmiris say about Indian oppression is false. Indian army on the soil of Kashmir behaves as a occupational army ,even some weeks ago in Kashmir people tried to come out of houses to break curfew , they were unarmed and any weapon they had was just SLOGANS but Indian army and its paramilitary forces sprayed bullets on them whereas in Jammu same curfew was broken by protestors who were armed with trishuls and swords petrol bombs, Indian army remained a mute spectators.The mob in Jammu lynched two Muslim cops torched a village of nomadic Muslims , Communal army remained silent and even distributed cold drinks to them. Muslim drivers who were plying on pathankot –Srinagar Highway were burned with petrol bombs, Hit with iron rods and one of our driver Latif Ahmad later died in the Hospital. This all was done during full presence of Indian occupational army. You still say your army is secular.
In Jammu a brigadier (Retd.) Namely Suchet sing was heading the communal agitation on behalf of Rss ,Vhp.Bjp , He was advising how to enforse econpmic blockade of Kashmir,A person of such a calibre in army is communal not to talk about ordinary soliders.
You advocate about Babri masjid. What is the benefit what happened afterwards.The question why they let it happen.If govt of India can imprison whole Kashmir for nine days in 2008 and for 25 days in 1990, why It could not defend that Mosque.Its all juggling of words.Indian constitution is confined to the books and in practical there is discrimination among the citizens of India on the basis of Religion.Anyway that’s the problem of India and not of Kashmiri's

Abou the picture of President of India.This is a real picture of her with a Ak-47 in her hand during her visit to Kashmir.The purpose of this picture here is to Show the body language used in Kashmir. Also she is the supreme commander of the Indian occupational army hence is morally responsible for all the atrocities done by her Army in Kashmir. Again unfortunately you could locate the picture of the president but on the back ground you couldn't locate the sea of countless graves who were Killed by your Occupational army because they wanted freedom from India.Tell me is it needed hundreds of 11 months old kids to get killed before then only you will accept the atrocity. Russia during recent conflict with Georgia told on record in UN that 2000 South ossetians were killed by Georgias aggression on South Ossetia on 8th Aug.2008, Russia on record called it genocide .In kashmir more than 100.000 people were Killed thousands have disappeared and countless unknown graves are located near cease fire line which India and Pakistan calls L.O.C. How many deaths you need more to declare and accept the genocide.
You say that Simrit Sing jeet Maan is also a terrorist.Why any one who favours the cause of Kashmir is always called a terrorist.Arundhati ,Praful bidwal ,Ved basin is also a terrorist. Leave it man! You people don’t want to see the truth, the writing on the wall is clear.
In the end I also want to write here that while talking about Kashmir you should first remember its disputed status in UN.The presence of UN military observers in Kashmir.Indian media is biased ,They will never tell you truth,Search from independent sources. Check Local kashmiri newspapers web sites and you'll find what we are talking about.Check
www.greaterkashmir.com
http://www.risingkashmir.com/
check the archive of greater Kashmir from 11th aug onwards and you'll find the most recent atrocities on Kashmiris.Remember this newspaper is published in Srinagar where 7 lakhs of your troops are deployed so don’t say its wrong as Inian governor's agencies are always checking these newspapers but cannot stop the truth.
Also you can check the bloggers of Kashmir and find out what a comman Kashmiri says.I can recommend you
http://kashmir-truth-be-told.blogspot.com/
http://kashmir-burning.blogspot.com

WALEED/

Anonymous said...

well.. it's like I said!

FREEDOM STRUGGLE

Muslims In China Slaughtered

The slaughtering of Uigurs by Chinese occupation forces and its Han groups has once again reopened the history of occupation and slavery.This time it’s the Muslims of urumchi, The Uigurs.Uigurs as Kashmiri Muslims are a proud race and have a relationship dating back to centuries. As Israel the proxy of America and other western powers in the middle east ,China setteled the han ethnic groups in uigur dominated areas and changed the demography of that place.When Kashmiris opposed to the Land transfer to Hindus last Year they were having the same fears as India is also no angel and its oppression and atrocities on Kashmiris are well known..Lets pray for the Uigurs and the Tibetians .They are facing the same type of oppression and genocide as Kashmiris face.

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INDIA KILLED THESE KASHMIRIS,THEY DISAPPEARED IN CUSTODY

INDIA KILLED THESE KASHMIRIS,THEY DISAPPEARED IN CUSTODY
DONT SELL THEIR BLOOD

Orphans of Driver Lateef Ahmad

Orphans of Driver Lateef Ahmad
He was lynched by Hindu mob because He was a Kashmiri Muslim

REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE

REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE
INDIA KILLED THEM,THEY DISAPPEARED

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